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January 20, 2012

"iglesia ni cristo" means "church without Christ"?


Another created attack of jealous nonmembers is about the translation of the words "iglesia ni cristo" (spanish) to english, they say it should be translated as "Church without Christ".

Is this true?


What can we expect to them???^^


Here is what they say:

"iglesia" is a Spanish word, not a Filipino word. "Church" in Filipino is "simbahan."

"Cristo" is the Spanish spelling of Christ. "Kristo" is Filipino.

"ni" used in Spanish means "without" or "none."

therefore, correctly translated, "Iglesia ni Cristo" means "Church Without Christ."

It is true that words "iglesia" and "cristo" are both spanish words, but also tagalog words.


How this happened?


The official language of the Philippines is Tagalog, one of the many dialects in the Phil. spoken by people from Tagalog regions in Luzon. This dialect became the national language and the official language later became "Filipino".

Tagalog language has words borrowed from foreign languages like Chinese, Japanese, Spanish and English, the result of their influence to our country. While "Filipino" is said to be "tagalog-based" but also contain words from different dialects in the Philippines. (correct me if im wrong)

That is why "iglesia" and "cristo" are originally spanish words, while Filipino has "iglesya" and "kristo". Both languages has the same meaning, "iglesia or iglesya" in english is "church" while "cristo or kristo" is "Christ".

The word "ni" in spanish means "neither/nor" while "ni" in Filipino means "of".
For example, "Book of James" in english, its translation in tagalog or Flilipino is "Libro ni James".


Actually, this is nonsense to tackle but i just want to clarify things so that they will stop showing their ignorance.


This is the truth:


In Spanish ni never means without. Without is 'sin'. Church without Christ is iglesia sin Cristo. Ni means 'neither' or 'nor'. But you cannot say in Spanish iglesia ni Cristo just like in English you cannot say church nor Christ. So it is not correct Spanish at all. Neither church nor Christ is in Spanish "Ni iglesia ni Cristo". So you have to use both ni's.

So the name is Tagalog with Spanish orthography. It is not Spanish at all.

source: network54.com


Let us examine if this is true...

Spanish word "ni" means:
It can mean either "neither" or "nor."
It can mean, 'neither/nor' as in "Neither [Ni] sleet, nor [ni] dark of night..."
It can mean 'not even' as in "She didn't want to talk to anyone, not even [ni] her closest friends." In the imperative, it can mean "Don't even..." as in "Don't even [Ni] think about it." source: wiki.answers.com

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Lets check out google translate to know the truth.


The CORRECT translation of "Iglesia ni Cristo" (Filipino) in english is?






While the CORRECT translation of Iglesia ni Cristo (Filipino) in spanish is?






Therefore, Iglesia ni Cristo or Church of Christ have Christ, because this church is OF CHRIST.



4 comments:

  1. Hi Bro. Read Me, nice discourse on the above topic.

    Well, what can I say about those who made that nonsense "analysis" that Iglesia ni Cristo means "church without Christ"? They are DESPERATE PEOPLE who wanted to find fault against the INC.

    tsk..tsk..tsk... DESPERADO talaga sila.
    Talagang kasangkapan sila ng diablo na katulad ng ginawa ng mga Fariseo at iba pang mga kumakalaban kay Cristo noong unang siglo.
    Lahat ng pwedeng "ibutas" kay Cristo ay hinahanap nila sukdulan na magmukha silang katawatawa.

    The Lord Jesus Christ had lots of detractors and enemies during his time on earth. Those anti-Christ would employ DIRTY TACTICS just to PINDOWN Jesus.

    There was an instance when they asked Jesus about the IMAGE OF THE EMPEROR stamped on one side of a coin. They WANTED TO TRAP Jesus by His own words. They were DESPERATELY WAITING for Jesus to state say something that would suggest disobedience or disloyalty to or any seditious statement AGAINST CESAR.
    Instead, Jesus said:
    "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's"
    Thus, as DESPERATE AS THEY WERE, THEY FAILED TO "CORNER" JESUS.

    In the same manner, these people in our times are DESPERATELY LOOKING for LOOPHOLES that they can thrown against the INC...and WOW, UNBELIEVABLE! they are even trying to TWIST the meaning of the name "IGLESIA NI CRISTO."
    They would not RESORT to such VERY DIRTY TACTIC if they have only looked at the BIBLE.
    Where can we find the name IGLESIA NI CRISTO?
    THAT'S IN THE BIBLE!

    so, HINDI LANG SILA BITTER... DEPERADO pa talaga! NAKAKAAWA NA TALAGA SILA!

    HABANG INAALIPUSTA AT NILALAIT ang INC ay lalo itong nagtatagumpay. Kaya't sa SOBRANG PAGKA-BITTER NILA ay LALO SILANG NANGGIGIGIL na
    siraan ang IGLESIA.

    Kung susuriin mabuti, ANONG PANGALAN NG RELIHIYON ang WITHOUT CHRIST?

    > THE HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH
    - where is the name of Christ here?
    - I only see ROMAN..
    - ..CATHOLIC
    - ..APOSTOLIC...WHERE IS THE NAME OF CHRIST?
    - they DROPPED THE NAME OF CHRIST!

    > THE ANGLICAN CHURCH?
    - where is the name of Christ?

    > THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH?
    > THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH?
    > etc etc

    Therefore, HUWAG nyo na po LIKUTIN ang pangalan ng IGLESIA NI CRISTO... NAPAKALIWANAG - CHURCH OF CHRIST yan...


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    1. sa cow o baka na source ng pure cow's milk, may mababasa ka bang nakasulat na "pure cow's milk"? pero alam mo, may mababasa sa de-latang binebenta na "pure cow's milk". At saka, meron ka ring mabibiling "Royal True Orange" na inumin, pero ang prutas na Orange ay walang nakalagay na "True Orange"... :D :D :D

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  2. Spanish native speaker will understand "iglesia ni Cristo" as "church not Christ"

    iglesia = church
    ni = nor/or
    Cristo = Christ

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